Numbers at worlds?

[IrishBomber]

Was that with a Persimmon head and hickory shaft?  LOL

[LongDownunder]

I've made my LM read 130 plus with a wedge....just imagine what I could do with a driver.

They can be fooled and thay are not foolproof.

If you consistently hit balls on the same machine your relative numbers may mean something but it means jack when comparing it to your mate down the road on a different machine.

M

[IrishBomber]

You must eat a hell of a lot of Vegamite, huh!?

If Fister ever could swing the golfclub 171.2 then I will pee over the grand canyan. Both are equally likely. There is not a snowball's chance in Phoenix in mid-july that Fister EVER had that swingspeed.

Doc Guess you can start peeing
Look Some of you are hard to convince that there are guys that are faster and better than most. So fast that their records are laughed at.  Next time you Talk to a Cobra, Dunlop or accuflex Rep., Ask them about the testing they have done on their guys like Fister and Zuback, the two latest world champs.   Some of these records may never be broken and NO they may not be swinging at those records now.  And NO many record holders dont ever record those numbers during competitions. And lastly , just because your monitor dosnt record numbers as fast as these guys doesnt mean they are not possible.

[TheDoctor]

Danny, with all due respect, I have read nearly every post on this site.  I have talked to so many different credible sources in the sport of LD it is  embarrasing.  This particular number we are debating was elegedly recorded off of the toe of Fister's driver as he was testing back in the day.  The best response I have heard to this is "who cares" by Gringo.  Danny, for your information Gringo is as credible a source as you will ever find, so "who cares" is a response we should all listen to.  The only thing I will add is that if Fister were testing on the Titliest Performance Intitute's moniter the numbers would not have even resembled 171.2.  But who cares?  

PS:  The aTPI's monitor is as close to right as anything out there.  If you ever get a chance to test on that thing take it.

[LongWay]

As the doctor quoted another, who cares (about the numbers)

Sean won the whole thing 3 times, made the final 6/8 almost every year

I watched the 95 finals while doing cardio at home this morning and even with a major injury he was taking some of the hardest cuts I've ever seen during the final

Carson

[tgarber]

With regard to this topic I have to say this....

Yes, I'm new to the LD sport but I've been a scratch golfer for about 20 years now and I've always hit the ball far. I say all of that so you will understand that I'm not just blowing smoke.

For the past several months, I've been working with Nyle "The Nyleator" Pruitt, owner of PowerTech Golf, on every aspect of the long drive swing. It is rare when Nyle used the term "swing speed" during my training. His instruction focuses on creating optimal ball spin and velocity. His instruction focuses on making solid ball contact by perfecting the path the clubhead travels... right down the line at the target. He tells me that with proper spin rate and ball velocity, your distance isn't reliant on a fast swing speed. You do want to swing at it as hard as you can, but stay within the mechanics of a good swing. Trying to achieve the fastest swing possible isn't going to produce the furthest distance off the tee. Creating a swing that produces a ball speed of around 200mph doesn't have to be a 160mph swing. I will put a guy who has a 135mph swing speed and great swing plane and outrageous contact with the ball against a guy with a 160 mph swing speed who comes "outside-in" with his swing plane, and I'll bet on the first guy everytime. I've learned from Nyle that strength training the muscles used to hit the ball further is going to produce a repeatable result with regard to distance. The goal is to hit it hard and far... not fast and far.  

I'm averaging 135mph swing speed. At sea level I'm hitting the ball an average of 355 yards. Sometimes I stretch it out to 380... but I know my swing speed didn't just all-of-a-sudden jump to 150 to hit it 380. I just put the clubhead where it should be. I've got another month and a half to train with PowerTech Golf before the Desert Launch in February. And I foresee those averages going up. So I'm not really worried about swing speed. The stronger someone gets physically and has a great golf swing, the further he's going to hit the ball. My advice is to re-think your protocol with regard to how you practice and train your swing. You may be wasting good practice time working on the wrong thing.

Tom Garber

Doctor and Tom thanks for the post.   And I will agree  "Who Cares"?   I just post some of these things to


Have fun
stir up some conversation
get other opinions
FYI
And finally to make some people want to reach into their computer screen and beat the snot out of me.  Just kidding but would that be something to see?   Again,  Its all in fun

I would wonder why anyone who is considered a world ranking pro in LD would allow a major clubhead  or shaft maker to test them on a machine that is not the latest technology and not properly calibrated (if even possible) and then allow the numbers to circulate in the media and major golf publications.
I trust that if the top ranking pros say they have set a number in their swing and distance they will not loose credibility by posting a record that is so far out that few can believe it. Personally I had a hard time believing Mike Austin's world record of 515 yards on a golf course when he was 64 years old.           http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Austin

The LDA has stated many times the only records they recognize are set during the Remax world finals cause everyone is in the same place in the same conditions. Which returns to the reason this thread was started.  over 2300 views, wow!    So all these other numbers are just what I said earlier.  I hope my posts have sparked interests and promote more posts that make this blog fun and interesting and educational to keep coming back to. I also want to say I try to keep the posts as accurate as I can and will admit misinformation if I know I have been misinformed or misunderstood what I read.

[SCUDMAN]

Hey Danny, in Mesquite this year I talked to a PGA pro who played in the tournament when Mike Austin hit that drive. He said the hole where he did it was a dogleg right with a concrete drainage culvert running down the right side of the hole. This culvert was in a thick stand of trees which could not be driven over. He said Austin hit his drive in the woods & his ball bounced down this culvert & came out behind the green! This PGA pro ( who's name I can't remember, but was known by quite a few long drive pros) said that if you hit the ball straight off the tee on this hole you would drive through the fairway because of the dogleg, he said the only way to drive the ball 500 plus yards on this hole was to run it down the culvert. Of course I wasn't there back then, so who do you believe? Funny how you mentioned Mike Austin"s drive & I heard this in Mesquite this year! Steve DiPietro

[gringo]

Great story.  I know that it was also windy that day, about 20mph.  Any ball that goes over 400 yards has help.  Over 500 yards, a lot of help.

Now that makes sense.  I had a ball go into a culvert on the other side of the fairway and it just stopped cause of a bunch of leaves.  I can see his going down a steep culvert and traveling a distance that way.

If anyone is interested there is a site devoted to learning more about the technique introduced by the late Mike Austin Moderated by Thomas Dang

http://www.mikeaustingolf.com/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Austin_Swing

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Austin

http://golf.about.com/b/a/222150.htm

[Kenny]

Who are these guys and what the hell have they done in long drive?  


PS .. That was for you madman !

I updated the links in my last post.  Now they should work.

Kenny this should answer your question