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« on: February 02, 2012, 08:57:43 PM » |
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Do more LDers bench press 400 plus
Or swing 140 plus ?
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« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2012, 09:21:04 PM » |
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400? Ha ha this is long drive not body building.
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« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2012, 09:43:46 PM » |
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I find when I bulk up and put a lot of size on my chest I have way less flexibility and can't turn nearly as well.. Sure strength is helpful but if your super strong you normally put on a lot of size. As long as you keep your flexibility, it can't hurt.. Chest strength I don't think is a key to a long drive.. Correct me if I'm wrong.  |
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« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2012, 11:25:25 PM » |
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I find when I bulk up and put a lot of size on my chest I have way less flexibility and can't turn nearly as well.. Sure strength is helpful but if your super strong you normally put on a lot of size. As long as you keep your flexibility, it can't hurt.. Chest strength I don't think is a key to a long drive.. Correct me if I'm wrong. It does some but not too much. Bench press is a combination of many muscles working together to complete the exercise. Years ago I really hit the weight hard, 5 day/week ~1 hr for about 6 months. I increased my bench from 215 to 285, that gave me about 20 yards. I had to increase my bench 70lbs to get 20yds. That isn't a great trade off in my opinion. I know that my triceps, legs and shoulders were also a lot stronger too so I think it was more the other muscles getting me to the increased yardage. |
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« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2012, 11:48:56 PM » |
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Well, I'm new to LD so i can't compare numbers... But... When i played football and could easily bench 350-400 "depending on reps" but did notice when i played golf my swing was not the same as my chest became too big and just couldn't turn my shoulders/arms properly.
Of course that was when i was 6'4 285lbs "in shape" Now I'm 245 and feel i can hit it further then i ever good. bigger..
Most peoples bodies grow different and for me, my chest got too big and it interupted my swing but others may not have the same problem. All depends on your body and how it reacts to weight training.
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« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2012, 03:19:54 PM » |
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do you think jamie sadlow is into benching a refridgerator??? me thinks not- being strong is a prerequisite to hit it long , however , ever watched world strongman??? they aint hittin it too far!
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« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2012, 03:37:02 PM » |
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do you think jamie sadlow is into benching a refridgerator??? me thinks not- being strong is a prerequisite to hit it long , however , ever watched world strongman??? they aint hittin it too far!
One year Patrik Andersson WON both the European LD Champonship and the Swedish LD Champonship...he WON the World's Strongest Golfer Championship last year and didn't qualify for the World's RE/MAX...that should tell you something! |
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« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2012, 03:53:34 PM » |
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Patrik is a fully fledged ld legend and a top mate , he may return soon......
Also keep your eyes peeled for top euro lders being inducted into the European LD hall of fame!
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« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2012, 04:35:44 PM » |
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Patrik is a fully fledged ld legend and a top mate , he may return soon......
Also keep your eyes peeled for top euro lders being inducted into the European LD hall of fame!
.................and just one Hell of a good person....like you, Tom and Matt! |
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« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2012, 04:46:04 PM » |
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Patrik is a fully fledged ld legend and a top mate , he may return soon......
Also keep your eyes peeled for top euro lders being inducted into the European LD hall of fame!
.................and just one Hell of a good person....like you, Tom and Matt!  |
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« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2012, 05:29:41 PM » |
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Patrik is a fully fledged ld legend and a top mate , he may return soon......
Also keep your eyes peeled for top euro lders being inducted into the European LD hall of fame!
.................and just one Hell of a good person....like you, Tom and Matt! ...and don't even get me started on all the good ones in Sweden...not enough ink...LOL! |
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« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2012, 05:44:15 PM » |
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Do more LDers bench press 400 plus
Or swing 140 plus ?
More than likely a person benching 400+ is also doing other exercises that contribute to overall strength. I don't know of any guy benching 400+ that is not doing other body parts that exceed 400+ lbs in strength. Are they fast? some. could they be trained to be fast? OOOOHHHHHHH YEAHHHH. A friend who placed in the World's Stongest Man Competitions is one of the fastest guys I know. At 6'4" 345 and can dunk a basketball on a 10' rim, this a guy that could easily swing 140 on a trackman with a couple lessons. Hitting balls, well that is another subject. If he can throw 10 kegs weighing 50lbs over a 13ft fence in 40 seconds he can learn to swing and is generating way more force than JS. There will be doubters about this, but swing speed is about physics, and speed can be learned from force production if the correct technique is learned. The bench press is not a golf swing, but strength, power, and speed, have a strong correlation. Training does that. |
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« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2012, 06:08:08 PM » |
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not many lders do 400+. To get to 400, some serious and dedicated training is needed.
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« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2012, 06:42:45 PM » |
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Ok let's say 3 plates 315
Do more do that on bench or swing 140
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« Reply #14 on: February 03, 2012, 07:30:22 PM » |
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The more you lift the more your swing will resemble Allen Doyle!!!
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« Reply #15 on: February 03, 2012, 10:32:03 PM » |
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Andy, your swing didn't shorten that much...
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« Reply #16 on: February 03, 2012, 11:09:27 PM » |
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i don't care if you can or can't bench any certain #.... we are not pushing over mountains, its still a stick sport. that being said i think it has to do with the person. Bash brothers, pujols, fielder jr those were think big guys who could and can crush a ball. it depends on ur body.
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« Reply #17 on: February 04, 2012, 01:24:05 AM » |
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Joe Miller anyone?  |
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« Reply #18 on: February 04, 2012, 02:44:36 AM » |
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Patrik is a fully fledged ld legend and a top mate , he may return soon......
Also keep your eyes peeled for top euro lders being inducted into the European LD hall of fame!
.................and just one Hell of a good person....like you, Tom and Matt! Cheers Steve! that means a lot! Not made it onto the LD radar yet but hopefully that will change this year  Matt |
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« Reply #19 on: February 04, 2012, 10:50:21 AM » |
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To put the bench press = yardage debate in a another light, last year I torn the labrum in my right shoulder and then torn the bicep tendon off after that. Had surgery (bicep tenodesis) and could barely bench 100 lbs 3 months later. Hit in a local 3 months post surgery and hit 370 and was putting 145+ on an SSR at that time. It's been a year now and it still bothers me on heavy chest presses but my SSR numbers are 155 and 400 yds is possible again. Hit 431 in the NC regional last year, but so did everyone else! ha. I know that high bench press numbers don't correspond to hitting the grid either.
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