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« on: February 01, 2012, 10:44:46 AM »

I have a very full swing and lately I seem to be hitting alot of snap hooks. I have looked at the following:
getting weight transfer to left side into impact-I am doing this
Standing too close or far from the ball-I am the correct distance=about the span on one hand from body to butt end of club and hitting on balance
Hitting from inside to out-I am not doing any Over the top moves
Grip is on the weak side to make sure my right hand is not closing too soon but it must be??
Moving the ball back in stance seems to help sometimes
Any fixes would be appreciated.
Thanks for taking the time to help.
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« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2012, 11:19:58 AM »

hey,

I can think of a couple ideas:
1.  Could you be coming TOO far from the inside?  Your comment on moving the ball back made me think of this.
2.  Most people who snap hook aren't getting their hips to shift laterally enough, or not far enough out ahead of the release.  This causes the right shoulder to ride too high around the circle.  If you start turning the hips before you have established the correct axis to turn around, then you will smother hook it.  The opposite shot to a snap hook is a block, generally where your hips get going too far out in front.  You could

If you could post a link to a youtube video, I'm sure myself and some really smart guys who follow this forum will give some suggestions.  I would be happy to analyze it with my V1 Pro software.
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« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2012, 03:46:48 PM »

when i have trouble snap hooking it starts with clearing the hips. also if you play baseball weakening your grip with your top hand will do more than your bottom hand. Everyone with a baseball background i have played with can easily snap their bottom hand so hard it doesn't matter how weak of a grip they use with it. Weaken the grip on your top hand.

Also check if you are finishing around your body or in front of your body, yet again baseball habits force me to swing around and causes horrible hooks.
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« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2012, 03:59:03 PM »

Thanks much to all for your help, really appreciated.
I will let you know how your info works.
I am also wondering with all the strength training I am doing whether the driver shaft is now too soft for me. Wondering whether I am able to manipulate the loading and unloading too much due to my strength.
I have had this shaft for 2 years, it's a 48" fubuki 73 X flex
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« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2012, 04:12:29 PM »

I've always been told that my snap hooks occur because my hips are moving laterally. Now I'm only turning my hips and there is practically no lateral movement at all. This however hasn't solved the problem. I have a couple of videos on youtube, would appreciate if someone took the time to check them out Wink

http://www.youtube.com/user/teleppan

Sry keiko :S I'm not trying to hijack this thread. But since I'm suffering from exactly the same problem, I didn't see the point in making a new thread...
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« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2012, 04:59:37 PM »

I've always been told that my snap hooks occur because my hips are moving laterally. Now I'm only turning my hips and there is practically no lateral movement at all. This however hasn't solved the problem. I have a couple of videos on youtube, would appreciate if someone took the time to check them out Wink

http://www.youtube.com/user/teleppan

Sry keiko :S I'm not trying to hijack this thread. But since I'm suffering from exactly the same problem, I didn't see the point in making a new thread...

look where your head is at impact in relation to where it was at address , you are miles behind it and thats why you are hooking it!
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« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2012, 05:23:00 PM »

Titan, looking at your videos solved my problem-I think, ie. my head is too far behind the ball; that's why when I move the ball back in my stance I don't usually hook it.
I did have some success keeping my head perfectly still and swinging around my spine now I see why.
Also, like you, I am too closed at address. Someone told me to aim more left to give my lower body more chance to get out of the way. I think I am getting closer to solving the problem.
Thanks much
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« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2012, 02:22:43 AM »

hey Titan,

I can see that your clubhead is slightly in the smother position coming into the ball in that video.  In your case I would suggest narrowing up your feet a few inches.  The wider the stance, the more your CG or navel area gets stuck in the middle of your feet - evidenced by the slight 'stuck on the back foot' look in the follow through.  This could also cause the head to hang back.

Give it a shot - you will see how much easier it is to finish up on a true front foot balance, and the snap hooks will disappear like magic.
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« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2012, 06:38:14 AM »

Among the things I am doing wrong is setting up too closed, I "think" this is preventing my lower body rotation into impact. I am going to try setting up more open to allow my lower body room to rotate instead of moving laterally.
Make sense???

hey,

I can think of a couple ideas:
1.  Could you be coming TOO far from the inside?  Your comment on moving the ball back made me think of this.
2.  Most people who snap hook aren't getting their hips to shift laterally enough, or not far enough out ahead of the release.  This causes the right shoulder to ride too high around the circle.  If you start turning the hips before you have established the correct axis to turn around, then you will smother hook it.  The opposite shot to a snap hook is a block, generally where your hips get going too far out in front.  You could

If you could post a link to a youtube video, I'm sure myself and some really smart guys who follow this forum will give some suggestions.  I would be happy to analyze it with my V1 Pro software.
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« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2012, 08:03:36 AM »

Easy fix. Square your body to the target and shorten your backswing. In the downswing, try to make it feel like your shoulders are square at impact.

Tom Garber
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« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2012, 08:39:08 AM »

Easy fix. Square your body to the target and shorten your backswing. In the downswing, try to make it feel like your shoulders are square at impact.

Tom Garber

Shouldn't the shoulders and the hips be as open as humanly possible at impact? That way you are generating speed with the larger muscles of your body rather than just ripping it with your upper body. <-- Just an another thing I'm told.
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« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2012, 06:29:51 PM »

It would seem for us mere mortals-not for the pro's on LDA-being more open would seem to lend itself to a better impact position, ie. clearing the hips and hitting with rotation versus being closed and how in the heck to you get over into that finish.
I have had a long backswing for years and to shorten it now would create a minor disaster for me so while I appreciate Mr. Garber's time and advice, all sorts of stuff happens when I try to shorten my backswing. If I try to make my shoulders square at impact, I will hit huge blocks. I am a rotater for sure.


Easy fix. Square your body to the target and shorten your backswing. In the downswing, try to make it feel like your shoulders are square at impact.

Tom Garber

Shouldn't the shoulders and the hips be as open as humanly possible at impact? That way you are generating speed with the larger muscles of your body rather than just ripping it with your upper body. <-- Just an another thing I'm told.
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« Reply #12 on: February 02, 2012, 08:00:08 PM »

I think it needs to be said that there are a ton of things that are awesome about that swing.  Almost everybody could use a tweak here and there, but you have a nice move overall.
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