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« on: January 05, 2012, 09:57:38 PM »

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-01-05/adams-golf-s-brewer-says-sale-dividend-among-strategic-options.html
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« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2012, 11:22:26 PM »

Is this good or bad for us?
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« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2012, 12:01:09 PM »


If another Major (primarily golf i.e.) buys ADAMS.....IMO not good for you.  If an investor group buys ADAMS....could be very good for you. 
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« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2012, 12:19:12 PM »


If another Major (primarily golf i.e.) buys ADAMS.....IMO not good for you.  

Please explain your thoughts..  Smiley
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« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2012, 01:08:10 PM »

As a general rule when a Major purchases a secondary company...it is primarily presented as just that.  The presentation is not to compete against their main product line.  So, they will cut all the excess fat and regroup the line to better fit into a noncompeting yet well-thought-of product line.

You must remember here.....those in the industry still consider Adams a 2nd tier company.  Adams considers themselves a 1st tier and certainly present themselves in that manner.....but, not so in reality.  If a Major buys the company it will not be presented in the manner that Adams would have possibly, in the future, built on to increase the image.  Therefore, it is unlikely Adams will ever break out under that scenario.

However, if an investor group or large company...even outside the golf biz jumps in to purchase they will maintain and increase the image that Adams has done so very well at doing over the last 5+ years!  They will maintain and increase their budget concerning ProLDing....IMO.  It's such a natural for them with Jamie....and the rest of you (and Pro LD in general).  They will fight to create a mucho better brand identity....where a Major owning Adams will not fight as hard....they don't have to.  They can use Adams as a leverage line i.e. price point which in turn.....helps their main product line.  I have been thru this when I worked for the Majors.      
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« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2012, 02:29:46 PM »

Is this good or bad for us?

Prich...

A: Adams Golf has been the lead LDA Equipment Sponsor for a while... This news article, be it based upon fact or something to simple filling space is CLEARLY not something any of you needed to read.

B: Technically speaking it directly impacts a couple of you far more than the bulk of the readers of this forum.

C: Perhaps I have not been paying close attention, mostly because I don't really care about the health or longevity of the OEM side of the industry, but I cannot think of the last time that a "private investor group" bought any big name brand of hardgoods in the game. I mean... they would need to have their collective IQ's checked or simply have so much money that they simply enjoyed watching it disappear.

D: This part of the story pretty much tells a big portion of what will happen.... "After posting a net loss of $12.2 million in 2009, the company has made money in six of the past seven quarters. The shares, which gained 37 percent last year, rose 4.3 percent after the close to $6.58 at 6:32 p.m. in New York.

“We are going to go through with a process that best helps shareholder value,” Brewer said today in a telephone interview"
.  In other words... for the past , almost 2 years, this company has "made money"... their stock has "risen 37%" which is outstanding and still is sitting at a whopping $6.58 cents per share after two years of profitable sales! As a comparison... GOOGLE is sitting today at almost $652 per share, also making money is the past 2 years.

E: The rest of that article points out that Morgan Stanley is the same company that fostered the Titleist sale. And the 3 brands named are not commenting. Hmmmmmmmmm...

F: Bottom line is, and to answer your question directly and without the cockeyed optimism that sometimes accompanies posts on this forum.... The golf industry is now and will be in, for the foreseeable future, the toilet. People do not sell cash cows, people feed them, warm them, and protect them. On the other hand, people tend to pull the rip cord before they smash, headfirst into the ground. They made an entire sport out of that very thing. The warning signs are and have been all around you, yet nobody has mentioned any of them.



I cannot see one single thing that has been pointed out that shows an upward trajectory for any of it. No apologies, not trying to slam anyone at all, just pointing out the absolute reality.

 
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« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2012, 02:43:42 PM »


Gee.....and who didn't know another 'the sky is falling' post would land directly at your feet...Mike!

"Cockeyed Optimism"...LOL! 


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« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2012, 03:05:46 PM »

hahaha. Thanks Steve,

Perhaps now is the time for one of your Nostradamus predictions (the first of 2012) about how "their time is just around the corner"... or "this thing is getting ready to make the big time".... .



Or we could just answer his question.

Oddly, I think we both did, we just disagreed.


Hope you had a great holiday.

 

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« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2012, 03:12:09 PM »

On predictions:

Oddly enough Mike...I was going to introduce a club that was of this flavor:

On soleplate:  IT'S OVER 12.21.2012  The Last Golf Club You Will Ever Need!

LOL!

Decided against it....
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« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2012, 03:40:32 PM »

i honestly dont c how it would effect us anyway.. was adams only for long drive?.. no.. so was it long drive that put them under.. nope.. bad for jamie and anyone using their stuff looking to get replacement heads i would think though...
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