A look at a source of speed and power

[thedanman40]

Anyone who has thrown a baseball can understand what I am saying. I was a pitcher through high school and can't help but think about how I generated speed and power when throwing a baseball. When you watch a pitcher, watch the load on the back leg, then the stretch and drive with the front leg, followed by the momentum bring the back leg forward and the toe dragging. Now I know pitching is not swinging a golf club but body mechanics that can generate speed can be seen in so many other sports. Getting a different look at what can generate speed might help some people visualize something new. I have been working on using my lower body better and have been looking at different ideas.

This is a cool video that shows how the legs and lower body works to create width and speed with a pitcher... A smaller one as well.... The legs, hips and core can create so much energy... anyways, here it is. I hope you can get some ideas out of it as I have.

http://youtu.be/lGDlwhITEp8

[bom]

great video. it'd be beneficial to see that kind of in depth analysis of some of our greats, like Jamie and Pat D., then like the video, compared to hacks like Gary M.and..well i won't name names, but I'd love to see it.
p.s. just went to the somax web page. the advertised 25x multiplier is flawed. it shows a man standing up right with a clubhead 75 inches from his center line divided by the 3 inches hip to center line. this would somewhat apply if we hit a golf ball 75 inches(vertical plane) from our hips. we hit balls around 35 inches(or less depending on height/shaft length/stance) in a vertical plane from our turned hip.(examine some of the pics at impact from worlds at longdrivers.com). no one disputes the importance of hip speed but as with most product advertising the benefits are always exaggerated.

[xxsethxx]

That is confident muscle movement right there. He took what worked for him, his own natural ability and added mechanics to it. Fun to watch.

[bradfromearth]

The legs, hips and core can create so much energy...

Which is why, if you are an athlete you should never be able to bench more than you squat. Try to tell that to some guys and they think your nuts.

[Nosponsors]

Power is Speed x Strength w Excellent Mechanics.  You need to use a product and program that does them all at the same time !
Sport specific training! 

[thedanman40]

Power is Speed x Strength w Mechanics, if your using a product and program doesnt do them at all its useless!

I wasn't saying anything about the product what so ever. I was simply posting a video that shows the hips and leg movements. And I am sorry but there is no reason to post something negative like that. Why would you do that when the only reason I started this thread for for positive reasons? I wasn't advertising, complaining, talking bad about anything.  Whats useless is your reply.

[theultimateswingtrainer]

Great points Dan.  The power is absolutely coming from the lower body and the hips with the upper body following.  A great baseball player, hockey player, javelin thrower, volleyball player, power lifter, a great athlete in general, gets his power from his lower body.  All of us in this sport are blessed to have tremendous athleticism in some other sport before long drive.  We understand how to store energy and explode with silly power.  And i agree that lower body leg drive and hip speed are essential to power to create the initial speed, but if its not done correctly its useless.

The so-max. Its is a tough call as for its usefulness?   Data is data and its probably somewhat true about the 25x multiplier? but whoever that kid is, he obiously is a young flexible person.   The problem is in the actual application of the product as it relates to the real golf swing - First, we dont stand up straight when we hit a golf ball, which will make the swing plane horizonal to the ground?  Next, that kid will either hit an atomic duck hook or flare it way out right because his hips are so fast and his upper body is trying to catch up.  The practical application of power in golf: is the Downward movement of energy on swing plane and then transferring it towards the target.   Horizonal training instead of sportspecific training doesnt work.  Ask the inventer of that product to throw a heavy medicine ball against a wall 20 times like that kid is standing vertically and he'll see it doesnt work in functional training.  You need to be in a bent over golf position or your back will be toast!  (Chiropractor anyone!!!!!)  Also, notice when you're done pounding drivers you make two holes in the ground where your feet were, that's because you are applying tremendous downward force into the ground, not horizonal!   

Learn the mechanics and all will be solved!  Train like your are going to compete with mechanics, strength and speed!

[thedanman40]

Again, the post was not about the product, it was about the slow motion movements of the pitcher. I never said anything about the product that just happened to be part of the clip. I do not use whatever they are advertising nor did i even go to their website. I just liked the breakdown of the body mechanics.

[Nosponsors]

Happy Holidays Dan - Thanks for the video! 

Foot, Knee, Leg, Hips, Stomach, Shoulders, Arms, Hands, (Ball) Club.  Good Formula. 
 

[NITROFORCE]

I liked the video and the explanation of the sequence of muscular events and how each one of them contributes to the next.  Interestingly, as each is longer, or has more ROM, the ERA went down.  So there was some parallel in physical performance and the bottom line.  
This same sequence of events happens in the swing too.  Pitching and swinging have some similarities but one you manipulate the ball, and the other you use a club to manipulate the ball.  So there is a slight disconnect in energy transfer, however the club multiplies the velocity but increases the skill involved in manipulating the ball.  More velocity x timing=more skill.
  
Unfortunately the video showed a chain of events but the product that is supposed to enhance all this seems to point out that all you need is strong, fast, and flexible hips and the Somax is the answer.  The answer is training ALL the elements in the chain, AND the chain as a whole.  How does one learn to speed the chain of events up?  Heavy clubs can't do that, and that is where the weight training problem arises.  Lighter clubs will, but since it is lighter there is less muscular recruitment and when you grab your driver it slows back down as you have learned to move fast with less muscular force.

The REAL answer lies in high velocity-high resistance-full golf swing motions.  Do the golf swing in it's entirety with higher than normal resistance with a faster swing sequence.  This is impossible with weights.  So massless resistance is a solution.  
The Somax uses torsion, but I doubt it has enough resistance to create any muscular hypertrophy but maybe could affect the rate coding frequency of the muscular contractions to make your hips faster.  Imagine if the Somax could do that to EVERY rotational movement in the golf swing.  What do you think would happen then?
I know.

[theultimateswingtrainer]

I've got to imagine to get the maximum recruitment of fast twitch muscle fibers the resistance would have to be strong enough to allow someone to do the movements, but yet flexible to allow the movement to be done correctly.  There is nothing like that on the market today... unless you make it!  Opps, after 20 attempts we did!  LMAO!

Does the Nitroswing do that too?  I imagine it does.   

I'm here to help so dont hestitate to email me @ theultiimateswingtrainer@gmail.com
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"a perfect combination of Golf Swing Mechanics and Endless Power"
People asked and i decided to show a preview of the video testimonials. 
http://jumpstartcolumbus.com/1120interviews.php
Signed a nice contract with a few retailers!  This is just a preview of whats to come !

[Geekoman]

I've got to imagine to get the maximum recruitment of fast twitch muscle fibers the resistance would have to be strong enough to allow someone to do the movements, but yet flexible to allow the movement to be done correctly.  There is nothing like that on the market today... unless you make it!  Opps, after 20 attempts we did!  LMAO!

Does the Nitroswing do that too?  I imagine it does.   

I'm here to help so dont hestitate to email me @ theultiimateswingtrainer@gmail.com
Facebook: The Ultimate Swing Trainer
"a perfect combination of Golf Swing Mechanics and Endless Power"
People asked and i decided to show a preview of the video testimonials. 
http://jumpstartcolumbus.com/1120interviews.php
Signed a nice contract with a few retailers!  This is just a preview of whats to come !

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[pgaloom]

you need the quicktime plug-in to view.

[StevePratt]

You will be a much better long driver and golfer in general if you try to follow pitching mechanics (especially sidearm) than if you listen to most golf teachers.  Their explanation of mechanics in golf have absolutely no crossover into any other athletic endeavor and they don't see how this is a problem.  To an athlete, the most efficient golf swing will feel very natural and analogous to pitching, hitting, javelin, or hockey slap shot. 

This is the reason that most of you have done these other skills at a high level and now drive well.

[NITROFORCE]

You will be a much better long driver and golfer in general if you try to follow pitching mechanics (especially sidearm) than if you listen to most golf teachers.  Their explanation of mechanics in golf have absolutely no crossover into any other athletic endeavor and they don't see how this is a problem.  To an athlete, the most efficient golf swing will feel very natural and analogous to pitching, hitting, javelin, or hockey slap shot. 

This is the reason that most of you have done these other skills at a high level and now drive well.

I concur,...

[NITROFORCE]

I've got to imagine to get the maximum recruitment of fast twitch muscle fibers the resistance would have to be strong enough to allow someone to do the movements, but yet flexible to allow the movement to be done correctly.  There is nothing like that on the market today... unless you make it!  Opps, after 20 attempts we did!  LMAO!

Does the Nitroswing do that too?  I imagine it does.   

I'm here to help so dont hestitate to email me @ theultiimateswingtrainer@gmail.com
Facebook: The Ultimate Swing Trainer
"a perfect combination of Golf Swing Mechanics and Endless Power"
People asked and i decided to show a preview of the video testimonials. 
http://jumpstartcolumbus.com/1120interviews.php
Signed a nice contract with a few retailers!  This is just a preview of whats to come !

The truth in golf exercise goes thru 4 stages,

"When you HEAR about the NITROSWING, you chuckle to yourself and think of all the other golf gadgets and gizmos too."
"When you READ about the NITROSWING, you start to understand how this is physical training and it kinda makes sense."
"When you SEE the NITROSWING, you observe how it works and why it works."
"When you SWING on the NITROSWING, and then you FEEL it, you smile and think about how long you are going to hit that next drive."


You likin' that aren't you UST!!!!  You can insert "ultimate swing trainer" in where "NITROSWING" goes but that would be plagiarism.  When I get mine, I'll write up some lyrics for the UST "jingle".

fc

[Nosponsors]

Dude that is hilarious!  Nitroswing is for the super duper serious long driver who wants Max - get the f outta my way power.  Thats my jingle for you!  If yours was my price I'd have 3 of them!  Incredible concept with incredible results! 

     

[NITROFORCE]

Thanx Mike!
for those that see what Mike and I are after, understand we are approaching it from different angles.  Here is the best part,...
They BOTH work and they both have pros and cons.   

[Geekoman]

Thanx Mike!
for those that see what Mike and I are after, understand we are approaching it from different angles.  Here is the best part,...
They BOTH work and they both have pros and cons.   

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