Frank
one of two things has taken place---(1) you read the linked article i mentioned and didnt comprehend it
(2) you didnt read it at all
Cause now your arguing something I never mentioned or discussed ----again maybe REREAD your own comment that I quoted you on----no need for a tangent----You said something that was not correct at all and now are trying to rationalize it with STICKHANDLING---which again has nothing to do with SWINGING a golf club or speed ? -----go back and read the linked article.
stickhandling has nothing similar to swing the golf club either ----thats explained in the article.
regards
Toddo
It was number 2. I have no argument, there was no need to see the article. But I read it anyway, it was fairly easy to comprehend. When I go get my stick I'll remember which one to get. Fortunately, this fellow knows a lot about hockey and which stick to get if you shoot a rifle with your right hand or something. I did see the quick mention that the golf swing and hockey "shooting" were not similar. I doubt he knows jack$#!+ about how skills are developed and how other motor movement skills transfer to other sports. I don't know the term stickhandling (do now) and how you see the relevance to something that I have NOT mentioned is your own ability to extrapolate something in your own "facts of knowledge". What are the facts of knowledge, by the way?
"This is a LIKELY due to his ability to hit a hockey puck in the same manner except the hands are apart with a slap shot." was my statement. This guy (paul) that you hold as some sort of hockey kinesiology guru doesn't realize that "shooting" the puck and or "stickhandling" is done with arm/shoulder linkage movements and the golf swing does the same thing. Which require quick opposing contractions of the shoulder movements combined with opposing elbow flexion/extensions to move the hands in a rotational manner to do this. If you don't do this, try manipulating the club OR the stick with NO shoulder movements and NO elbow flexion/extension and keep the arms straight. Overlap all your fingers over each other while holding the club or stick, keep your arms straight, and see what you get. NOTHING. NO LINKAGE=NO MOVEMENT
The MORE your hands are APART, the more pronounced this linkage affect is seen. When the hands are closer as in the LD swing, it is not as obvious, but it is there. If it weren't, there would be NO WAY the shaft would bend to store energy to be released at impact, and if this is not being done with the pressure of the hands from the linkage effect, slower club head speed.
SO, manipulating a stick or a club to generate tip movement, you must perform arm/shoulder linkage if the hands are NOT totally overlapped.
Now, whether he plays hockey left, and does golf right, still contributes to the skill of this ability. The skill to push/pull a club or stick is a bilateral skill in hockey and not so much in golf. Maybe he learned this shoveling snow and then transfered it to hockey, then learned to do it in swinging a club. I assumed hockey because whether you are left OR right, you don't manipulate the stick with straight arms. I mentioned I could be wrong, but he does play hockey. That was dumb of me to assume that the skills are similar in both sports, and he plays both at a high level. Poor observation huh?
Here is an extrapolation on what you are saying is correct based on me being "not correct at all".
JS plays hockey left handed, so there is no way that his golf swing is related in his ability to do a similar skill with the arms that he does with a stick and a puck. He does not posses the ability to have bilateral motor skill learning capability.
Is that what you are saying? No correlation huh?
He only learned how to do a arm/torso/hand linkage left handed when plays hockey, and when he golfs there is NO WAY he could learn to do that same thing with switched hands and direction, so me must have only learned to do it the other direction only from golf? Each direction is totally different. Right?
I stand corrected. I'll go back and find all the people that specialize in this type of skill learning over the last 50+ years and tell them the that "Paul" knows way more. No sports skills transfer and they definitely can't be bilaterally learned. In light of what you just read, there is no way I am correct AT ALL. Got it.
I'll enlighten you on the fact that this skill is not the only motor movement skill he transfered from hockey to golf. And as far as "paul", he should get an update and some current reading materials pertaining to motor-movement skills.
Now, you have a choice to observe these facts, and then add it to your base of knowledge.
fc
